tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post5980379144455496286..comments2024-02-13T11:11:28.246+00:00Comments on Bishop Alan’s Blog: One (Traditionalist) Road to RecoveryBishop Alan Wilsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-79450675562598449912009-01-31T11:27:00.000+00:002009-01-31T11:27:00.000+00:00And, replying to myself posting as you!!Thanks ver...And, replying to myself posting as you!!<BR/><BR/>Thanks very much Anne. We are beginning to build up a body of experience in Bucks, and around the diocese. The main problem is the understandable desire of parishes when a vicar goes to speed up the process of finding another on. It's one of the causes of repeating patterns of toxic experience in parishes — they're not bad, just in a hurry!<BR/><BR/>I'll cehck out the resources you gave...Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-7111034800995343212009-01-31T11:25:00.000+00:002009-01-31T11:25:00.000+00:00(Posting fromemail on behalf of Anne Lee)You may b...(Posting fromemail on behalf of Anne Lee)<BR/><BR/>You may be interested in an article by Richard Impey in the Church Times of 5th October 2007, Issue 7543 "Why a church might need an interim vicar" http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=45643 and also a letter the following week, 12th October 2007, Issue 7544 "Interim Vicars can concentrate on the things that matter" http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=45929. I have long advocated the introduction of (trained) interim ministry in the Church of England, in particular when there have been particular problems in a parish, including pastoral breakdown. Richard Impey was himself an interim vicar in Norwich diocese and is currently Bps Advisor for Parish Development in Sheffield diocese..<BR/><BR/>There are many reasons why an interim minister might be helpful in a parish: obviously serious breakdown or when there have been abuses with which a congregation needs to come to terms. Interestingly we were in the Episcopall church in Colonial Williamstown, VA in October when the then incumbent was preaching his farewell sermon having just been elected Bp of (I think) South Virginia. His predecessor had been an interim minister because of the sexual abuses apparently committed by the previous incumbent. The sermon paid tribute to the work done by the interim minister in helping the congregation in whatever way was necessary for each individual and for the church as a whole. It was a remarkably honest sermon and judging from the nods and vocalisations around us, the congregation were in agreement with what was being said. I find it very interesting - and very sad - that the C of E seems to operate on a policy of silence, where an incumbent is not told of any irregularities in an earlier incumbency and the congregation is left with inadequate pastoral help and supervision. What you are doing in Bucks, with Andrew Gear is a splendid first step, but may not always be able to address the issue of a dysfunctional congregation where the church members, including the PCC, are unaware of their dysfunction and want to perpetuate their behaviour. It would be good if Richard Impey's expertise could be utilised more widely within the church.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for raising this issue.<BR/><BR/>v. best wishes,<BR/><BR/>AnneBishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-39760795675295250732009-01-30T16:28:00.000+00:002009-01-30T16:28:00.000+00:00It is too, too easy, with all the irritants on off...It is too, too easy, with all the irritants on offer on the internet, to give free rein to the sins of pride and arrogance. Just wanted to make sure. And thanks for setting me to rights on the degrees of bunnyhood.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-2672547578391511512009-01-30T16:21:00.000+00:002009-01-30T16:21:00.000+00:00Interim Ministry Network and their training is her...Interim Ministry Network and their training is <A HREF="http://www.imnedu.org/" REL="nofollow">here</A>. Alban also has good publications on this.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-24093813389873697732009-01-30T07:07:00.000+00:002009-01-30T07:07:00.000+00:00Ann, many thanks for pointing me to the interim mi...Ann, many thanks for pointing me to the interim ministry concept. We have one or two retired clergy in Bucks who do great work, but it tends to be ad hoc, and I don't think our church has thought through transition issues in ministry as clearly and cogently as in the US. I remember seeing some good Alban Institute stuff aboutinterim ministry a few years ago.<BR/><BR/>What we do in Bucks, however, is to get Andrew Gear (Parsh Development Adviser) to do some close consultancy work with every parish as it goes into vacancy, helping with the profile, but mainly helping them identify where they're at and what the issues are.<BR/><BR/>LB, there are various types of sarcasm, aren't there: Sick Bunny (Class 1), Angry Bunny (Class 2), Namecalling (Bugs Bunny?)(Class 3) Lowest form of wit (genuinely witty, and part of joshing among friends)(Class 4). Very few attain Class 5, what Woody Allen called "Puckish Satire on contemporary mores" that I associate with the best commenters on this blog. Ain't really sarcasm at all; just a tickle with a high class buzz saw...Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-18527937672106908412009-01-29T22:30:00.000+00:002009-01-29T22:30:00.000+00:00"Sick bunny sarcasm." Sorry! Will try to do bett..."Sick bunny sarcasm." Sorry! Will try to do better.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-43040130497095592142009-01-29T16:20:00.000+00:002009-01-29T16:20:00.000+00:00This list is straight out of Interim Ministry Trai...This list is straight out of Interim Ministry Training that is offered for those planning to work as interim clergy. I recommend the training for all leaders in congregations.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.com