tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post804977055692830440..comments2024-02-13T11:11:28.246+00:00Comments on Bishop Alan’s Blog: General Synod Election AddressBishop Alan Wilsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-88888880226166153622010-09-25T22:48:21.823+01:002010-09-25T22:48:21.823+01:00Thanks for many kind words. I think there needs to...Thanks for many kind words. I think there needs to be a careful examination of all the points you raise, and especially a review of how communications technology can be used better, as some diocese are attempting, to inform people about their candidates. The Diocese of Bristol, for example, has offered short film space on their website. Also the means of informing people need to be enriched.<br /><br />To my mind the argument for some measure of democracy in Church is that the Holy Spirit is given to each Christian in Baptism. Benedict tells us that a healthy community will consult everyone, remembering that sometimes God's will can be revealed through the least obvious person.<br /><br />I have come to find, following Robert Greenleaf, that the only sure legitimation of any leadership in our context is willingness to try and serve... This discovery reinforces the message of Philippians 2, II Corinthians 4, and other passages that enunciate the principle.Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-67847117842565520852010-09-25T22:35:21.797+01:002010-09-25T22:35:21.797+01:00I really hope you get in, In terms of clergy candi...I really hope you get in, In terms of clergy candidates, I shall be voting for those who espouse the principles of servant leadership rather than self promotion.Diananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-90502659535488913022010-09-25T22:06:18.827+01:002010-09-25T22:06:18.827+01:00I certainly hope you get in. In terms of clergy, ...I certainly hope you get in. In terms of clergy, I'm looking to vote for those who espouse servant leadership rather than self promotion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-799455494191364412010-09-23T17:39:17.718+01:002010-09-23T17:39:17.718+01:00I agree, the moral basis of gender equality is oft...I agree, the moral basis of gender equality is often casually dismissed as a human rights or even "human rights" driven agenda that goes against Christian beliefs.<br />And from the FiF front you hear that complaining about women not being able to be priests makes as much sense as complaining about men not being able to have babies.Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-71024438256171178842010-09-23T13:44:52.005+01:002010-09-23T13:44:52.005+01:00The thing that has always troubled me is the House...The thing that has always troubled me is the House of Laity. I've been on church electoral rolls for 15 years, and I go to the odd annual parochial church meeting, both of which make me an exception even in the exceptional ranks of those who regularly go to church. But I've never had a vote for the House of Laity or been consulted by those who do, or known anything about the candidates - not even their names, let alone their views.<br /><br />I think the House of Laity is a fraud because in no sense at all (surely) can it be said to represent the views of the laity of the Church of England.<br /><br />The method of indirect election was favoured by Napoleon because it gave an illusion of democracy whilst, in reality, stifling the grass roots.<br /><br />I can understand arguments against democracy in church. But I think there should be honesty and no reports of the House of Laity ever seem to recognise how far removed from the laity it really is.badmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-89580095112202176892010-09-23T13:43:10.345+01:002010-09-23T13:43:10.345+01:00Thanks! just idle curiosity really, as obviously I...Thanks! just idle curiosity really, as obviously I am not one of the 50 people with a vote.Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08102799923678550905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-57687129733299730532010-09-23T12:55:03.044+01:002010-09-23T12:55:03.044+01:00Good luck, Alan! Glad to see a spread of perspect...Good luck, Alan! Glad to see a spread of perspectives, geographies (although I am always surprised to see that Grimsby is "Southern"!) and personalities in the mix.<br /><br />I think each person standing should be asked to confirm that they agree that the next synod is not just about women bishops - there is so much more we should be worrying about!Richard Gillinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14940101329972346807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-3910950330705136682010-09-23T12:37:20.237+01:002010-09-23T12:37:20.237+01:00Charlie —
Candidates for places for four southern...Charlie —<br /> Candidates for places for four southern suffragans on general Synod:<br /><br />1. Ian Brackley, +Dorking<br />2. Pete Broadbent, +Willesden<br />3. Brian Castle, +Tonbridge<br />4. Colin Fletcher, +Dorchester<br />5. John Ford, +Plymouth<br />6. David Rossdale, +Grimsby<br />7. Humphrey Southern, +Repton<br />8. David Walker, +Dudley<br />9. Alan Wilson, +Buckingham<br /><br />Hope this information helps. I don't know who has stood for Northern suffragan places, nor have I any easy way to find out!Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-19619829892237075172010-09-23T11:40:09.288+01:002010-09-23T11:40:09.288+01:00Charlie, I didn't know, even though I was a ca...Charlie, I didn't know, even though I was a candidate, until voting papers arrived on Saturday. I'll get you a list here when I come out of meeting...Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-88297620701398746062010-09-23T11:22:55.325+01:002010-09-23T11:22:55.325+01:00Are we allowed to know who the other candidates fo...Are we allowed to know who the other candidates for HoB are? I can't find it anywhere on the C of E national website.Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08102799923678550905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-57086283584241607952010-09-23T09:45:52.016+01:002010-09-23T09:45:52.016+01:00Thanks, Lesley ‚— v important feedback. Various ca...Thanks, Lesley ‚— v important feedback. Various candidates were saying same thing to me last night. Definitely a point to address another time...Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-25990417854357000422010-09-23T09:20:32.794+01:002010-09-23T09:20:32.794+01:00The thing is we had about 20 seconds notice of the...The thing is we had about 20 seconds notice of the husting dates... so my diary already bookedLesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17228191583982936566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-47725507858541461172010-09-23T08:17:29.396+01:002010-09-23T08:17:29.396+01:00Wrong house, I'm afraid, Erika, but a nice tho...Wrong house, I'm afraid, Erika, but a nice thought. Certainly encouragement to go and get my beard done, though with a trip to the middle east coming up I have been hoping it would get a bit longer and more rabbinic...<br /><br />What got me down about the meeting was that with 7 candidates there, all but one substantially over 50 (to estimate conservatively) there was little evidence that any of them actually get it about the moral basis of equalities, not as they relate to gender anyway. If the church seriously wants to relate to people under 50, pretty much all of whom that don't vote BNP do get it, this is a huge area for development over the next five years.Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-16610307457586898782010-09-23T07:43:21.495+01:002010-09-23T07:43:21.495+01:00With women it's the right hair-do, with men it...With women it's the right hair-do, with men it's the right beard. You're bound to get in now!Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-61489994529653540742010-09-23T07:39:52.710+01:002010-09-23T07:39:52.710+01:00UKV, Lesley, Erika, thanks for kind thoughts. Stan...UKV, Lesley, Erika, thanks for kind thoughts. Standing for election for something seems to be the best way to induce kind comment from friends this side of dying! Why only yesterday I went to a GS house of laity hustings (to find out what people are buzzing about in this election, even if they don't have a vote) and one engaging candidate (with whose views, I must say, I cannot concur as much as both of us would wish) told me that my beard was just the right length right now. However low this election may be on information, it's certainly high on niceness...Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-81309746574706015732010-09-23T07:31:43.164+01:002010-09-23T07:31:43.164+01:00Good luck, you'd be the best thing that could ...Good luck, you'd be the best thing that could happen to General Synod. Although it might not be the best thing that could happen to you - you have to have a certain masochistic streak in you even to consider it.<br /><br />I agree that you don't want to do it like those strange foreigners. Much more sensible to get whole heartedly into the English way of doing things and knock on individual church doors wearing a big "Vote Alan" rosette...Erika Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01812376497361267014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-6448553163167871262010-09-23T07:22:56.902+01:002010-09-23T07:22:56.902+01:00Go Bish, I hope you get in :)Go Bish, I hope you get in :)Lesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17228191583982936566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-28862524161649513772010-09-23T07:13:05.232+01:002010-09-23T07:13:05.232+01:00GM, Malcolm, may thanks for your kind wishes. The ...GM, Malcolm, may thanks for your kind wishes. The Ruritanian complexity of it all does make it very easy to be philosophical about the whole business, and the use of Single Transferable Vote does mean that these quirky electorates wishes do get represented accurately in the result. I'm big on the English idea that the virtue is to take part not to win. Trying to win is the sort of thing Foreigners do, like training before sporting contests, or voting in elections...Bishop Alan Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13879516755776951638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-53248306974061171772010-09-23T07:01:18.587+01:002010-09-23T07:01:18.587+01:00An interesting address to fellow Bishops.
I would...An interesting address to fellow Bishops.<br /><br />I would not have known that you have Evangelical roots. You seem to be so much more! Perhaps I am just not discerning enough.<br /><br />But I wish you well, the voice of all Bishops is needed in Synod, either by election, or by proxy.<br /><br />Hopefully, your joyful celebration of the Ministry of Women will come to fruition in the next Synod, with women being elected as Bishops without any qualification of their role.<br /><br />Now to start a lottery on the first Women Bishop!UKViewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18114944341930758335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-1553446786557887792010-09-23T00:48:44.072+01:002010-09-23T00:48:44.072+01:00The best of luck, bishop.
Though one is moved to ...The best of luck, bishop.<br /><br />Though one is moved to wonder whether the luckier outcome is to be elected or defeated. ;-)Malcolm+https://www.blogger.com/profile/08469936715413110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7132206171945839649.post-70894937467764648692010-09-22T23:29:33.547+01:002010-09-22T23:29:33.547+01:00Bishop Alan, if I could, I would vote for you. Si...Bishop Alan, if I could, I would vote for you. Since I have no vote, consider this my endorsement of you. <br /><br />I encourage those of you who can to vote for Bishop Alan.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.com